- POWDERPOST BEETLE SPECIES
- POWDERPOST BEETLE ARTICLE
- POWDERPOST BEETLE BIOLOGY
- POWDERPOST BEETLE EXIT HOLES
- OLD HOUSE BORER HOLES
- POWDERPOST BEETLE TREATMENTS
- POWDERPOST BEETLE CONTROL IN LOG HOMES
- POWDERPOST BEETLE SPRAY
- POWDERPOST BEETLE TREATMENTS SHOULD BE ALL INCLUSIVE
- TIMBOR IS LIMITED
- POWDERPOST BEETLE CONTROL FOR ATTICS
- POWDERPOST BEETLE FOR WALL VOIDS
- POWDERPOST BEETLE CONTROL USING WITH FOAM
- POWDERPOST BEETLE TREATMENT FOR CRAWL SPACES
- POWDERPOST BEETLE CONTROL FOR FURNITURE
- POWDERPOST BEETLE CONTROL IN ANTIQUES
- POWDERPOST BEETLE AEROSOL TREATMENTS
- POWDERPOST BEETLE GEL TREATMENT
- POWDERPOST BEETLE WOOD FLOOR TREATMENTS
- POWDERPOST BEETLE WHAT TO DO OPTIONS
- POWDERPOST BEETLE PROBLEMS
- WOOD FLOOR LIQUID SPRAYS FOR POWDERPOST BEETLES
- POWDERPOST BEETLE TREATMENTS FOR TREE BORERS
- POST TREATMENT BEETLE EXIT HOLES
- HOW TO TREAT EXIT HOLES
- POWDERPOST BEETLE QUESTIONS
Most people fear that termites will infest their home and this fear leads them to spend thousands of dollars on pest control to prevent this from happening. Yes, it is true that termites may find a meal at your house. But they are not the only pests ready to eat your house. Powder Post Beetles and other wood eating species are another insect you need to fear.
POWDERPOST BEETLE SPECIES
Powderpost beetles includes a wide range of subspecies all of which eat and live in wood commonly used for construction. Some of these species include lyctidae, anobiidae (anobid), bostrichidae. In the "other beetle" species some common names include Old House Borers, round headed borers, buprestid beetles, ambosia beetles and bark beetles. Other wood destroying pests include Bamboo Borers, Wood Boring Weevils, Bark Borers, Furniture Beetles, Steely Blue Beetles, Deathwatch Beetles, False Powderpost Beetles, Sculptured Pine Beetles and Wharfborer Beetles. The bottom line is the list of wood destroying beetles present in the United States is well over 50 and probably closer to 100 at this time. The significance of this is that many of these species can and do feed on both hardwood and softwood. This means an active infestation found in your hardwood floors could easily lead to a problem in your pine book case or your walnut table.
The point is the old list of powderpost beetles has definitely changed in recent years and the more we import foreign wood and furniture, the more this list will grow. The end result will be a much broader range of beetles many of which will be quite capable of infesting both softwood and hardwood. This article will explain what to expect should you discover an active infestation and then offer ways to control local infestations.
POWDERPOST BEETLE ARTICLE
Because we encounter powderpost beetles in several different situations, we will present this information in four sections. The first will apply to those who have a current infestation in a log home, a shed or a barn. The second section will be for homeowners who have a problem in a crawl space, attic or wall. The third section will be for people who have furniture which is infested such as a dresser, couch, hutch, cabinet or chair. The fourth will be for homeowners who experience beetles emerging from wood floors made of hardwood or softwood.
POWDERPOST BEETLE BIOLOGY
Before we get to the different sections, I would like to explain some general biology of these pests. By understanding their life cycle, you will be able to understand why we do certain treatments for control. Please remember this article is not intended to discuss in great detail the different species of powderpost beetles you may encounter. We have described the general biology which pertains to many species and subspecies so you will be able to understand these types of insects better. Time periods for development, longevity of infestation, specific behaviors and reproduction cycles are only outlined with the intention of giving you information so you can determine whether or not you have such pests, how you should treat the infestation and what products to use. The scope of this article is to provide the basic facts and guidelines so individuals inclined to do their own pest control may do so with confidence in what they doing, why they are doing it and what products to use.
Although an unprotected structure is a target for unwanted pests, powder post beetle infestations are more likely to be in wood which is used for construction. This includes wood used for log homes, conventional homes and furniture. Most wood today is milled, kiln dried and sometimes even treated. However, the egg and pupae stages of these insects seem to prevail. Powderpost beetles have many sub species which have different time tables for development. They all start from eggs, but the time it takes for the egg to go through its stages varies on the species. It is not uncommon for wood used to construct a log home to have adults emerging any time from one to ten years later! This wide range of development further complicates diagnosis time and may lead you to ignore the severity of the problem.
POWDERPOST BEETLE EXIT HOLES
The cycle, like any other insect, is egg, larva, pupa and then adult. When the egg hatches, a little grub crawls out which eats cellulose. This grub is what causes all the damage. Once it gets it's fill, it will undergo metamorphosis and then emerge as the adult. If powderpost beetles are what you have, expect to see tiny little holes and in some cases channels where they have chewed their way through the wood. In most cases, it is the adult emerging which people witness. First they see a fine powder, like talc powder, and then they see small holes. THESE HOLES ARE ACTUALLY EXIT HOLES WHERE THE ADULT HAS LEFT !!! This point is so misunderstood that I feel it is important to state it again….THESE HOLES WHICH YOU ARE SEEING IN ARE ACTUALLY EXIT HOLES WHERE THE ADULT HAS LEFT!
A trained eye is usually capable of finding the adults as they tend to accumulate around windows and lighted areas. They are small, about 1/8 " and appear to be reddish brown in color. It is not unusual for an infestation to generate several hundred of these adults during a short period of time. They are seeking a good place to mate and lay eggs to continue their cycle. Here is some powderpost beetle damage to a 2×4 piece of lumber.
Here is a picture of damaged paneling, both front and back.
Since many people find larger holes in their homes, we commonly get asked what could be causing such damage. The answer is a closely related boring beetle. Old house borers are larger and therefore create larger exit holes. They are most commonly found in softwoods such as pine. Their cycle is like a powderpost beetle in that the larva is what does the damage. Their exit holes are huge, however, and cannot be missed.
OLD HOUSE BORER HOLES
Expect to find them in attics and crawl spaces. There are many species of old house borers and they come in several colors and sizes. Their hole size will vary accordingly so don't worry if what you're seeing isn't an exact match; exit holes can be barely larger than a pin hole or as large as a dime. The most important thing is that their cycle is the same as powderpost beetles. And since the larvae feeds on wood, the treatments and products used will be the same. Here is a 2×4 with some exit holes from old house borers.
To solve a problem with either powderpost beetles or old house borers, you must stop the larva. This is done by using a material which penetrates wood. Once in the wood, feeding larvae will ingest some of it and die. Remember, the larva stages of these pests develop from the inside out. To control them, you need to get where they start.
POWDERPOST BEETLE TREATMENTS
The second key to control is using a product which will last. Although it is easy to kill the larva which are feeding, eggs that hatch months or years later must be stopped. A product with a long residual will provide such control. This residual will stop the current infestation as well as protect against new invaders should they find their way to your home.
It is important to understand that most species of these pests are dependent on a particular type of wood when first discovered. For example, if you first find them in hardwood floors, the adults that emerge would try to lay eggs on a similar type of wood. But the vast majority of powderpost beetles and other wood destroying beetles worldwide can live in any kind wood. If the emerging adults can't find a good new supply of their "preferred" wood of choice, they'll readily choose whats available.
For example, if a piece of cherry furniture has some powderpost beetles, the emerging adults will try to infest other areas of the same furniture. Now if they can't find good cherry to feed upon but you happen to have ash, hickory, oak or other hard wood in the home, it could very well become a target. And depending on the species, they might instead choose a softwood to continue nesting on so don't ignore any pieces in the home when trying to anticipate where they might end up. Look for wood which is vulnerable and untreated first. The chances of these beetles cross breeding is now as likely as ever due to the ever broadening range of furniture we import here in the States. Unfortunately all this exotic furniture made in far away lands will contain exotic beetles and some of these are quite capable of adapting to their new environments.
Now that you have a basic understanding of powderpost beetles and how they develop, lets examine more specifically the type of infestation you are experiencing. Each section will describe in some detail the nature of the infestation and how you need to control it. Choose the type of infestation you would like to learn more about and then click on it to link to that part of our article. You can also scroll down the page to get there as well.
1) LOG HOME PROBLEMS AND TREATMENTS
2) CRAWL SPACE AND ATTIC TREATMENTS
5) TREE TRUNK AND BRANCH TREATMENTS
POWDERPOST BEETLE CONTROL IN LOG HOMES
Log homes are being constructed throughout the United States in record numbers. These homes are prone to natural attack as nature tries to recycle the dead cellulose. These recyclers are ever present and represent themselves in the form of carpenter bees, carpenter ants, termites, decay fungus and powderpost beetles. Although most lumber companies and log home construction companies are treating wood before construction, there appears to be many infestations still active which leads to problems years later. No one knows if the treatments need to be increased or if the material being used is simply not penetrating the wood deep enough. Whatever the reason, log homes are being constructed with active infestations which don't reveal themselves until years after construction. At this point the logs have usually been treated with stains, paint, lacquers and sometimes sealers which will make treating them difficult.
POWDERPOST BEETLE SPRAY
If an infestation is discovered after construction, the use of a penetrating material such as BORACARE is needed. Boracare has the ability to penetrate 2-4 inches of wood and will be lethal to feeding powderpost beetle or old house borer larva. It lasts a long time and acts as a stomach poison to feeding larva. It will quickly stop the chewing, but adults may still be seen for a while until all developing pupa have hatched. Boracare needs untreated surfaces in order to penetrate.
If the wood has a polyurethane finish, don't waste your time trying to treat. Nothing will get through such a finish. However, stain by itself will not stop Boracare from penetrating. If it has weathered for a year or two, than applying Boracare before you next apply some stain would be best. Even though it may penetrate up to 4 inches, it will help if you are able to treat on both sides of the logs. This will insure maximum coverage and penetration. Boracare is absorbed quickly into the wood, so it only takes 24-48 hours to cure. This means that it should not be a major inconvenience in the home waiting for it to dry. But if the home has a strong finish on the outside and nothing on the inside, you may have to treat the inside several times and hope that you can get deep penetration.
POWDERPOST BEETLE TREATMENTS SHOULD BE ALL INCLUSIVE
Remember, even though you may only see a small area where exit holes exist, try to treat as much of the home as possible. Many times a spot treatment will resolve a localized problem area but then other areas of the home are found to be infested. To insure complete protection, treat as much as you can. Remember, the adults emerging are only a symptom of the problem. The real problem are any feeding larva. You could only treat the area where the adults have emerged, but this would prove to be short sighted and not the best idea. A better approach is to apply as much as needed to treat the entire area which may have activity. This attitude will save you money and time in the long run.
Another product worth mentioning is called TIMBOR. Many professional applicators like to use this material when treating for borers and powderpost beetles. It costs less to use than Boracare and I expect this is the main reason why it is the product of choice. If are having your home treated by a company and they want to use Timbor, insist on having them use Boracare. It will cost you more, but you will get a lot more protection for your money. Timbor is fine for prevention and provides a surface protection that most wood destroying organisms will not be able to penetrate.
TIMBOR IS LIMITED
However, it does not absorb as well as Boracare and therefore may not kill off eating larva. To kill the infestation as quickly as you can, use Boracare. If you have logs you want to protect that do not have insect activity, you can use Timbor effectively. The only difference between the two is that Boracare will penetrate better and Timbor is more likely to leave a white residue. Boracare dries invisible but because Timbor is a wettable powder, it can be seen on many wood surfaces after it dries. In finishing this discussion about these products, it should be noted that both use boron based active ingredients. They are relatively safe compared to many household cleansers and detergents. Neither product has an odor and cleanup is easy when working with them. They both can be applied with a standard PUMP SPRAYER, but be sure to use one which has a spray pattern which is flat and sprays a swath that is similar to using a paint brush. This insures uniform coverage and equal distribution. Many spray tips do not release a nice, fine spray and the application is rough and splattered. For most standard insecticide applications, this is acceptable. For Boracare or Timbor, you need smooth and equal distribution of the finished spray.
POWDERPOST BEETLE CONTROL FOR ATTICS
Like log homes, conventional homes can have an infestation of powder post beetles brought with the original wood used for construction. Structural lumber such as studs, sill plate, floor joists and rafters all can have infestations which do not show themselves until several years after construction. Treatment of these areas is generally easier than treating a log home because the wood is usually exposed and unfinished. Such structural wood is usually thinner which allows for quick and complete penetration as well.
Again, BORACARE should be used where you have activity and TIMBOR can be used to protect wood away from the infestation. If the area is prone to constant moisture exposure or if you just want to protect the wood surface from any chance of mold growing, use the BORACARE MOLDCARE. Basically this is a jug of Boracare with the additive Moldcare conveniently included. Both are added to the tank mix and combined will provide the best surface overall protection possible for any kind of wood. Any of these applications should be done with one of our SPRAYERS and once again treating more than the suspected infested wood is suggested to insure you get complete coverage. When spraying rafters and roof sheathing, use goggles. Although the runoff isn't likely to hurt you if you get it on you, it is wise to wear rubber gloves and eye protection so you don't have to run off and wash yourself every time some splashes on you.
POWDERPOST BEETLE FOR WALL VOIDS
If you suspect you have activity in wall voids below attics or above crawl spaces, you have a couple of options for treatment. The first would be to remove wall coverings like paneling or sheet rock. Once open, you would have direct access to studs and sheathing allowing for direct treatment with Boracare. This should also be done if you are renovating a home and plan on exposing certain walls or ceilings. Treat them when you will have the area exposed and once treated, you won't have to worry about it again. These areas are protected from the sun and rain so treatments last a lifetime. However, if you don't intend on removing wall coverings, you should still consider treating.
POWDERPOST BEETLE CONTROL USING WITH FOAM
This can be done with one of our FOAMING TOOLS. This device is like a standard pump sprayer but instead of pumping out a liquid, it creates a foam. When pumped into wall voids, this foam can be used to carry the Boracare to all sections of the void. Such coverage is not possible if you simply spray a liquid into such voids; liquid sprayed into wall voids simply runs down to the bottom and you end up with very little area treated properly. When foamed, voids get complete coverage with little mess. The foam is much dryer than water alone so you are able to get better coverage, less mess and a lot less preparation since you don't need to open walls to do such work. You will need to get some FOAMING AGENT to mix with the Boracare in the Tool. It is also best to mix the Boracare first in a bucket before you add it to the sprayer. Once in liquid form, pour the material into the foamer, add the foaming agent and then go to work. The Tool comes with several nozzles so you only need a small hole through which you can foam large areas – perfect when you want to keep a wall cosmetically in tact.
POWDERPOST BEETLE TREATMENT FOR CRAWL SPACES
If a crawl space is the area of concern, you may be having a problem with moisture which can lead to decay fungus. Although Boracare is needed for penetrating, using another product called TIMBOR will work well for surface treatments and should be considered for preventative applications. Timbor does a good job of preventing powderpost beetles as well as decay fungus and is recommended to apply as a precaution to stop such problems from developing. Structural members will stay intact longer and resist rot and insects if treated with Timbor. In this case, the ability of Timbor to stay on the surface acting means it can help protect the wood of decay fungi, mold and mildew. It has been demonstrated that if you reduce decay fungus you will reduce insect infestations. Use one of our Pump Sprayers along with the optional Spray Wand to get good coverage a uniform treatment. However, if the space is not readily accessible, use a BG FOGGER or FM6309 FOGGER for the job. This device is excellent for jobs where you are not able to get close enough to spray the wood you want to treat. This Fogger is able to propel the material 50 feet or more allowing for the treatment of many crawl spaces and attics which would otherwise be virtually impossible to access.
POWDERPOST BEETLE CONTROL FOR FURNITURE
In some cases, powder post beetles will infest furniture. Again, this is mostly due to wood being used which has some stage of the pest already in it at the time of construction. I have seen dressers, tables, chairs, cabinets, statues, trophies, couches, desks, wall units, artwork, picture frames and other wood objects experience this problem. The good news is you won't have to pay for expensive fumigation (which can cost thousands of dollars!) to get control of this boring beetle. In most cases you'll be able to take care of the problem at a fraction of the cost and in the end, get the piece treated in a way that will last for many years.
So how is it that furniture gets infested? Well, most people find out there is some kind of borer problem when they start seeing "exit" holes in a newly purchased piece of furniture. As explained above, these are the holes adults make after hatching from pupae cases deep inside the wood. Hatching pupae release full grown adults that will instinctively want "out" of the wood so they can seek a mate. Once out in the open and mate is found, they'll come back to the area looking for a good place to lay eggs. This means if you find wood with newly appearing exit holes, you need to take some action.
Regardless of the furniture type, the best way to treat the piece is with BORACARE. Unfortunately Boracare needs at least one unfinished side in order for the treatment to work. This is because it can only be absorbed through unfinished surfaces. So if the piece infested has a lot of stain or some kind of exterior finish like varnish with no large, unfinished sections, a Boracare treatment is probably out of question. For finished furniture that's thoroughly protected, you'll either have to strip the wood of it's finish or apply JECTA GEL.
The use of Jecta Gel is a good option when you have a piece of furniture that cannot be stripped of it's finish. In a case like this, you'll need to drill holes in the piece so that Jecta Gel can be applied. Once the holes are drilled, inject the gel into each one taking care to make sure the placement is complete and uniform. Once injected, the gel will permeate through out the wood and ultimately get it protected much the same as if Boracare was used. It's important to understand you will need to drill a lot of holes when using the Jecta Gel but in many cases this can be done without jeopardizing the integrity of the furniture. More importantly, after the treatment all the holes can be filled with wood dowels and finished so that cosmetically there is no need to leave any sign a treatment was even done.
POWDERPOST BEETLE CONTROL IN ANTIQUES
Powderpost beetle infestations of similar pieces can be a problem anywhere in the country. With the increase of antique furniture being used in contemporary homes, existing infestations are being distributed to new homes as well as antique galleries, museums and schools. Additionally, we are importing more and more foreign furniture and with it a lot of new beetle species. Although antiquing can be exciting and rewarding, be wary of powderpost beetles when looking at something you want to purchase for use in your home. Be sure to treat any furniture that has evidence of activity – even if you are unsure if the evidence is active or something old. This preventive treatment could prove to save you from the much larger cost of having to treat your entire home because it got infested due to that "old dresser you got from Grandma's"! Don't think the stain or varnish you plan on using will "kill those woodworms". Those "woodworms" are buried deep in the legs and sides of that old furniture and even if the fumes of the stain you applied were able to kill all the exposed stages, eggs and pupae will prevail and continue developing! Nature has equipped these stages to endure a lot of extreme exposures as a way to insure powderpost beetles are able to continue and help recycle cellulose. If you want to break this cycle, you'll have to treat it.
POWDERPOST BEETLE AEROSOL TREATMENTS
To treat such wood, you need to use a product which will penetrate throughout the frame and insure all stages of the beetle or termite are killed. We have three products which are designed to do this. The simplest method is to use an aerosol called D-FORCE AEROSOL. This aerosol comes with a straw applicator and when applied to the galleries, exit holes and windows of the damaged area will kill larvae and adults on contact. It does not penetrate so it will not work well when treating wood which is more than 1/2" thick. Also, it doesn't provide much residual so eggs which hatch in a month or two are likely to survive. To insure a more thorough and complete treatment, it is recommended that you use one of the other materials we have like the BORACARE or JECTA GEL. Dforce is good for small pieces such as baskets and wreathes. You can apply it on a regular basis to make sure you break the cycle of whatever is living. If the piece is too big or you don't have the time to make repeat applications, read on.
The Boracare concentrate is a great option and can be mixed with water and applied by spraying or painting. It is clear, odorless and needs to be applied to unfinished wood. It will penetrate up to 4 inches and once embedded will kill existing larva as well as new ones hatching later. Most dressers and cabinets need to be treated from the inside as the finish on the outside will prevent the Boracare from penetrating.
POWDERPOST BEETLE GEL TREATMENT
If the are you need to treat is completely finished, such as the leg of a chair or table, you should use go with JECTA GEL. Jecta Gel is basically Boracare in a gel form which allows for treatment where the liquid is difficult to apply or use. The gel can be applied to large and small holes you will need to drill prior to the application.
First, drill 1/4" to 3/8" holes depending the width of the wood you need to treat. Next, fill the holes with some gel and over time the material will permeate throughout the wood.
If drilling small holes you will need to keep them close to each other. Large holes will enable you to place more gel at one location which will insure a better and wider distribution but don't space them too far apart. Details about hole size and spacing will be found on the Jecta Gel label.
In most cases, the gel is used where you are concerned about the cosmetics of the furniture or because the wood is painted or sealed thus preventing the use of Boracare. In scenarios like this, you can now treat with gel and avoid having to strip the piece of it's finish.
Now if you intend on refinishing the wood any time soon, then you probably should wait for that to be done so you can treat with Boracare which will no doubt provide the more complete and thorough treatment. Regardless of which treatment you use, you will be able to refinish the wood with stain or varnish and the application will have no impact on how it looks.
POWDERPOST BEETLE WOOD FLOOR TREATMENTS
Over the years of doing pest control, I have had many customers who have problems with newly installed wood floors. The wood used for these floors is usually made of oak although pine is just as likely to be infested. In most cases, the customers notice the problem after the floor has been stained and varnished. This commonly happens 1-5 years after the wood has been installed. Small holes will be seen and talc like powder begins to accumulate where adult beetles are emerging. Like other infestations, I am at a loss as to how this could happen. Since most wood used for floors undergoes kiln drying and some type of treatment, how can anything still be alive and active following these processes? Logic tells us no insect should be alive, yet the wood clearly has an active infestation. This tells me there is a problem with conventional methods of treatment by the wood floor manufacturers or that the product is simply getting infested while it's kept in storage prior to processing and packaging. I firmly believe very few cases of wood floors actually become infested after they are installed. Unfortunately, most contractors and wood floor suppliers seem to avoid taking responsibility for the problem. In most cases the homeowner is left to solve the problem themselves. This could prove to be expensive depending on how the floor is treated. Let's talk about your options.
POWDERPOST BEETLE WHAT TO DO OPTIONS
Option one is to ignore the problem. Most manufacturers will tell you the level of infestation is small and probably will die out within a year. This means you would expect to have adults emerge during this time. In fact, the problem could die out but it's just as likely to continue. It used to be the vast majority of powderpost beetles were very much wood specific but this has changed. Wood flooring is now imported from all over the world and with these new suppliers comes a whole new range of beetle species. Many of these new species can cross feed meaning they'll readily choose whatever wood they can find to eat and breed. This means your hardwood floor beetle problem could easily lead to a problem in your pine molding or cherry dresser. The point is ignoring the activity is probably not the best option and a pro active approach will both provide peach of mind and a reason to believe you have a solid line of defense put in place.
POWDERPOST BEETLE PROBLEMS
Additionally, the current problem could turn out to be larger than originally anticipated. If there are thousands of beetles currently in the wood the damage could become significant before the cycle runs it's course. This means you could experience several hundred to thousands of adults emerging over a year or two and the risk of other areas in the home getting infested would obviously grow and grow as the activity continued. For many homeowners, this in not acceptable. If you are afraid the infestation will not die off, than you will need to treat. In the long run, options two or three will prove to be the better.
WOOD FLOOR LIQUID SPRAYS FOR POWDERPOST BEETLES
Option two is to strip the floors and apply BORACARE. Since the infestation is in the wood, you need to use a material which is able to penetrate. If the floors are finished with a varnish or urethane, Boracare will not be able to penetrate without stripping the wood first. Although this could be costly, it will probably be a lot cheaper than waiting a few years and then finding out the floor is so damaged that it must be replaced and that the problem has spread to other parts of the home. We also recommend treating as much of the floor as possible. This will insure no section of it is left unprotected. If you only treat the sections where the beetles are emerging, you may find out later that they are throughout other sections and you will have to treat those sections anyway.
If you decide to treat any part of the floor, it makes sense to do as much as possible. Use a good PUMP SPRAYER for the application. Make sure to use one which has a spray tip which puts out a flat fan pattern. This is important when using Boracare because uniform coverage and distribution is required for proper penetration. You don't want all the spray pooling up in pockets because the spray tip did not disperse it evenly.
The third option may be employed if you have a very small section of floor that you want to treat and you are able to access it from below. This would apply to wood floors which are built over a crawl space or a basement. These floors could be treated using a product called JECTA GEL. It's applied using a caulking gun and is used by squeezing small amounts of it into holes which are drilled into the wood just prior to the application. Jecta gel is used for treating furniture and wood which has a finish that cannot be removed. By making small holes discreetly, you are able to treat furniture and other decorative wood pieces without having to destroy the finish. You can also use Jecta Gel for treating your finished wood floor. This option is tedious but allows you to treat the floor without having to remove the finish as described above in option two.
From the basement or crawl space, you must drill up into the subfloor and then through it to the wood floor above. The key here is that the drilling should be done to a pre-measured depth. This depth would be enough to enter the floor boards at least 1/2 inch. The holes drilled should be at least 3/8 inches in diameter although larger holes would ensure better treatment. Generally, subflooring is 3/4" to 1" thick. The flooring is usually 3/4" thick as well. Once you know the exact width of these boards, you then attach a drill stop on the bit to avoid drilling too deep and damaging the tip of the bit. Holes will need to be drilled every 6 to 12 inches, depending on how big of a hole you drill. Once the holes are all drilled, Jecta Gel is then applied.
After the holes are treated, use a CORK or wood dowel to seal the hole. For cosmetic reasons, if you push the cork down just below the surface of the wood, it can be sealed over with wood putty and sanded smooth so when the flooring is refinished, the holes won't be seen at all. Make sure the plug is no longer then the width of the subflooring. This insures the Jecta Gel will be pushed up into the flooring and the dowel will keep it in place. Since the gel takes several months to permeate throughout the flooring, you want it to be in contact with the floor boards. If you don't cork or seal the holes, gravity will cause the gel to leak out.
The fourth option is to have the flooring ripped out and replaced. Many builders and contractors have found this to be a viable solution to the problem. Remember, they will many times rely on word of mouth advertising and the last thing they need is an unhappy customer that's got a beetle infestation due to the flooring he's installed! But just because you're replacing the flooring don't miss your opportunity to head off future problems in your new floor.
Be sure to treat prior to the finishing work with Boracare. When applied prior to staining and varnishing, the Boracare treatment will be quite effective and even if some beetles do emerge a year or two after you get the new floor installed, at least you'll be able to rest assured knowing the problem won't be around long. Having the new floor treated will keep it protected indefinitely and in my humble opinion, should be done in most cases due to it's low cost compared to the installation and finishing cost of most flooring these days. If nothing else, having the wood treated will also provide peace of mind knowing you have in place a strong defense and reason to believe any problem that does emerge will be short lived.
The trick to doing this type of treatment is knowing where the holes you are drilling are going and making sure they are going the correct depth. I like to start by drilling at least two holes all the way through the floor. I use these holes to measure a precise grid which will tell me exactly where I need to drill. Remember, you need to treat each floor board. This means that if you are treating a 10 x 10 room, you will need to drill about 1000 holes! How come so many? Well, if you drill every 6 inches, it will take about 21 holes for every 10 foot runner.
In a ten foot room, you would have 54 floor boards if standard hard wood runners are used. 54 runners times 21 totals 1334 holes! It would take about 3 tubes of Jecta Gel to do the application. Although this treatment is tedious, you will avoid the added the cost and aggravation of having to strip and refinish the floors. If the wood is unusually moist, you won't have to drill your holes as close as 6 inches. In fact, if the wood is moist enough, you can spread the holes up to 24 inches apart. However, the Gel is very thick and does not penetrate too far when applied to dry wood. If the wood is dry and not expected to become moist or to be exposed to moisture, than the holes need to be close together.
POWDERPOST BEETLE TREATMENTS FOR TREE BORERS
Since there are so many tree boring beetles and borers, it's worth mentioning that you can control and stop such invasions if you would like to save a tree from premature death. Most all trees can handle a few boring beetles but when the activity gets to be excessive, even the biggest and strongest hardwood can succumb to the damage. In most all cases, the boring damage leads to other issues like more insect invasions, premature water or fungus rot and basically a combination of contributing factors which cause a premature death.
Powderpost beetles can infest trees but there are many other species which do this more frequently. Pine borers, longhorn borers and flathead borers are just a few species that commonly infest trees; the list is far too great to include all of them in this article. Additionally, both softwood and hardwood trees are vulnerable to this vast populaton of wood infesting beetles.
If you find something boring into a tree and feel you want to do some treating to stop the invasion, apply some CYPERMETHRIN with a HOSE END SPRAYER to the trunk and any branches you can reach. Most of the activity should be on the bottom half of the tree and easy to reach. Be sure to treat surrounding trees you'd like protected as well. Chances are high if you have other trees close by they will harbor some of these same insects even though you won't necessarily see them. Keep a can of PT-CYKICK on hand to spot treat should you see activity in between regular treatments. Most trees will require 2-4 treatments a season; it's always smart to inspect them through the warm season and spot treat if you see a hole or two. If you keep seeing new activity then it would be wise to do a thorough application with the Cypermethrin to blanket your trees with a good residual all over their bark.
POST TREATMENT BEETLE EXIT HOLES
Because we get so many questions on this, the author feels it's important to point out that NOTHING CAN KILL POWDERPOST BEETLE PUPAE. That being said, any pupae present in wood you treat will continue to develop and upon reaching maturity, hatch and exit the treated wood. You might wonder why didn't the emerging adults die when chewing through the now treated wood? The main reason is that exiting adults don't eat the wood like powderpost beetle larvae. In fact they're just chewing through it to get out. And since the treatment works as a stomach poison, it's not able to have enough of an impact from chewing alone.
So how long can you expect to see exiting adults that hatch from pupae after you treat? No one can say for sure. The author has seen where this will commonly occur for 6-12 months following 25-50% of the treatments to wood with significant infestations. He's also seen where adults will continue to drill out some 1-2 years post treatment and though not common, it does happen in roughly 10-15% of the jobs where all the proper applications were made. So if you're seeing adults hatching up to two years following a thorough treatment, don't panic. It's quite possible these are the final pupae left and eventually they'll run out. But if this goes on for over two years, there is a strong chance that something is amiss and a re-treatment should be considered.
HOW TO TREAT EXIT HOLES
What about the exiting adult beetles? Should you be concerned about where they're going and what they're doing? This is very much a legitimate question and concern. Remember, adult beetles exiting the treated wood will no doubt be looking for a mate and a good place in which to lay eggs. Herein lies the potential risk of a new infestation and the reason for some concern.
Remember, powderpost beetles can fly. And exiting adults will many times fly off somewhere, fail to connect with another of it's kind and die. But what if they find a mate? Well, they'll next be looking for a good place on which to lay eggs. And since powderpost beetles will target similar if not exactly the kind of wood from which they emerged, anything similar cellulose wise in the home is fair game and a likely target.
So if you have furniture, molding, paneling or anything else that uses a similar or exact wood species as the species that was previously infested, it could will be a target for pregnant females. But the most likely scenario is that emerging powderpost beetles will target the old wood. This is because the old wood "smells" right. Previous beetle activity, female scent and other pheromones will "mark" this wood making it easy to find for both male and female powderpost beetles. Cracks, crevices and other routes of entry will become prime nest locations along with the newly formed exit holes. In fact, there is a lot of evidence to support the notion that female powderpost beetles seem to like using exit holes for egg laying.
Now if the wood was properly treated, this should be no need for alarm. In theory, even if eggs are laid and hatch, they'll die once they feed on the treated wood. But if you're unsure about your treatment or if you want a little piece of mind, treat all exit holes and any cracks or crevices you find in the wood (like the joints common to any wood floor) with some PHANTOM. Since Phantom is odorless and goes on dry, you can do some spot treatments without making a mess. And by treating these areas again, you'll ensure these areas can not become another breeding site.
POWDERPOST BEETLE QUESTIONS
We hope this discussion of powderpost beetles and old house borers has given you helpful information and enabled you to better understand their behavior. If you are going to pay for a service, make sure you get the best treatment for your money. If you are a do-it-yourselfer, using the best products will enable you to get control of the situation and prevent further infestation. After you decide which material will be best for your situation, order on line for extra savings or call on our toll free 1-800-877-7290. You can also e-mail us questions using our contact form link above. Most items are in stock and ready to be shipped on the day they are ordered.
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Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Timbor: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/wettable-powder/timbor
Pump Sprayer: http://www.bugspraycart.com/equipment/sprayers/solo-1-gallon-sprayer
Boracare with Moldcare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-with-moldcare
Foaming Tool: http://www.bugspraycart.com/equipment/foamers/solo-2-gal-foamer-w12-inj
Foaming Agent: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/foaming-agent
BG 2300 Fogger: http://www.bugspraycart.com/equipment/foggers/bg-my-t-lite-2300-120-v
FM6309 Fogger: http://www.bugspraycart.com/equipment/foggers/fogmaster-6309-120-v
Dforce Aerosol: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/aerosol/d-force-14-oz-aerosol
Jecta Gel: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/gel/jecta-gel-10-oz
Corks: http://www.bugspraycart.com/equipment/equipment-plugs/cork-716
Cypermethrin: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/viper-cypermethrin
PT Cy-Kick Aerosol: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/aerosol/pt-cykick-17-5-oz
Phantom: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/aerosol/pt-phantom-17-5oz
Hose End Sprayer: http://www.bugspraycart.com/equipment/sprayers/gilmour-20g-390





Comments on POWDERPOST BEETLE CONTROL
John @ 1:46 pm
I have powderpost beetles in my covered wood stack outside. It's mainly a nuisance, as the firewood gets covered with fine sawdust and I have to shake it off before bringing inside – kinda messy. I thought I might apply something to the ground underneath the sheds (they are small treated-wood post structures sitting on cinderblocks) to try to break the cycle. I do NOT want to apply anything to the firewood itself – fear of toxicity to myself and the wood stove's catalytic converter. Nothing terribly toxic on the ground either, as I use well water and the well is within 100ft. What product would be good ? Thanks.
admin @ 7:50 pm
First, I have to comment about the concern you expressed when burning wood that's been sprayed. Regarding the products we sell, burning anything you may have treated won't pose an "extra" hazard during the burning process. Especially when you take into consideration the raw smoke and other by products of the burning process. In fact, I'm fairly certain you'd find it hard to find any metabolites or other measurable toxins from pesticide if you were to collect the smoke and inspect it closely. No doubt you should not burn pressure treated lumber, rail road ties, etc. but these woods are treated with products that injected deep and densely into the wood. Furthermore, many of those products (like tar, creosote, etc.) are extremely hazardous in their own right. In other words, they're very different compared to what we sell. With our products, if you were to mix 1-2 oz of something, add it to a gallon of water and then spray it over 500-1000 sq/ft of surface area, each log would have very little pesticide on it. Now am I about to suggest you should treat you intend on burning? No way. That would be a waste of good spray.
But the rest of your question does confuse me a little. I'm not fully understanding what it is you want to spray? You say "I thought I might apply something to the ground" but do you mean the dirt under the wood pile or some kind of wood structure on which the wood stack is sitting? I'm guessing there is some kind of wood frame or rack you're wanting to treat because really, there is no need to treat the ground. As our article above explains, these beetles live in the wood and not the ground.
So if there is some kind of wood structure around or under the wood stack and that's what you want to spray to protect, I'm with you 100%. This would make a lot of sense. And the two products that would do the job are the Timbor and the Cypermethrin.
The Timbor would be a decent option because it's long lasting and ideal for surface treating wood. It's easy to work with and uses boron as the active so it's very safe. Treatments would prevent new insect problems and stop mold, algae and other rot. But Timbor is not suggested if you suspect there is any live activity in the wood. So if this area has live insects in it right now, go with the Cypermethrin. It's no doubt stronger and fast acting and will handle anything that wants to live on or in the wood. Also, neither of these actives pose a hazard or threat to your water well if you used them as we're talking about here. They both can be used within 10 feet of a cistern or well pump and that's when you're pumping the ground with significant amounts (25+ gallons) that's commonly done for when treating for termites. In this case, I'm thinking you're only needing 1-2 gallons of mixed solution so the hazard would be negligible once applied. Here are links to these products.
Timbor: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/wettable-powder/timbor
Cypermethrin: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/viper-cypermethrin
John E @ 11:38 pm
@admin: Thanks much for your response! The beetles were living in the wood that I have been burning this winter; so they're probably taken care of. Perhaps if none of the new wood I've been laying in for next winter (and the one after that) is infested, then I'm ok. But it occurred to me that maybe all the dust I've been shaking off the infested firewood (before I bring it indoors for the stove) that falls on the ground around the shed, is leaving eggs/larvae/whatever in the ground which will infest the new wood. I'm not really concerned about the shelter itself, it's all pressure-treated wood and they don't seem to be getting into that. I just thought it might be cheap insurance to apply some sort of insecticide to the ground underneath the shed. Like I said, it's just a small 5x10ft post structure sitting on cinderblocks. Thanks again.
admin @ 12:02 am
Now it makes sense. In fact you should be concerned about what is dropping off the logs you remove. Even though it's winter, on any given day where the temps get above 40 degrees, things can hatch. And though they might target the existing wood close by, there is always the chance of some finding a nearby tree, some outside furniture, a well house, shed, garage, etc. The point is we don't need to have rogue PPB eggs and pupae left to do as they wish. This is especially true if you use the same area for the same thing year after year.
I suggest you either spray the ground with the Cypermethrin every 2 months or apply some granules to the area. The Bifen would be a great choice because they'll last 3 months and would require very little to do the job. This would be easier than spraying and they'll hold up to the weathering better too.
Bifen Granules: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/granule/bifenthrin-g-25-lb
John @ 1:01 am
Thanks, just the sort of answers I was looking for!
Daniela @ 9:30 pm
How frequently do you need to treat/retreat for powder post beetles? Or is it a one time thing until you introduce new wood?
admin @ 9:17 am
Great question. The answer is mostly based on where the wood being treated will be kept. Here are some guidelines.
If the wood is a piece of furniture that will be kept inside the home and will have an exterior finish applied to it, you'll probably never have to retreat as the one application should last many, many years.
If the wood is furniture that will be outside, even if it's finished with an exterior coat of something, chances are after 3-5 years that it will need to be retreated.
If the wood is structural like sill plate, rafters, hardwood floors or any other wood that's mostly "inside" the house and out of the elements, treatments will generally last many years and usually don't need re treatment.
But exterior wood like the outside of a log home or swing set or anything exposed to direct weather usually needs upkeep and re treatments depending on how much weathering it takes. It's hard to say exactly when to retreat but we can usually advise once we know a few facts.
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Daniela @ 4:04 pm
@admin: The area is a dry crawl space and it was treated 6 years ago when I purchased it. The report said there was old and new damage present and many joists, and sill plates had been replaced shortly before. The house was built around 1900 and sits partially on tree stumps.
admin @ 4:14 pm
@Daniela: If the area has been dry since the treatment, there is no need to treat again unless you see something that is cause for concern.
Daniela @ 6:54 pm
@admin: Thanks so much for sharing your expertise
Tammy @ 9:08 am
How I can eliminate the bamboo borers inside a restaurant?
admin @ 10:57 am
If the bamboo doesn't have a finish on it's outer facing side, simple spray or "paint" it with Boracare. I've been involved with doing this treatment it's very easy to do. I've also seen where the bamboo is attached to the wall and can be removed because it's actually in squares like tiles or paneling. Once removed, the back side can be treated.
Another method I've seen done is by mixing up in the Boracare in a tub and then dunking the bamboo in it for a few minutes to let the treatment penetrate. This is highly effective.
Lastly, spraying it down with some Phantom can prove effective since bamboo is very thin. In most cases aerosols won't help but with bamboo, it's a viable option.
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Phantom: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/aerosol/pt-phantom-17-5oz
Lynn @ 6:46 pm
I recently replaced my stair case with a new oak structure. I noticed that we have active powder post beetles in one of the new oak posts supporting the railing. It looks like they may have bored into the railing as well based on the fine flour like powder I am noticing. It has been almost a year since installed. What is the best way to remedy this problem? Replace stair structure? Chemically treat house?
admin @ 10:12 am
@Lynn: If you read through our article above, you'll learn what you're seeing are not new beetles but in fact beetles that were in the wood you installed. As our article explained, the developing larvae and pupae will many times take a year or longer to complete their cycle and emerge. So at this point, you need to decide if you want to keep what you have and treat it or replace it with something new and to make sure this doesn't happen again, pre treat the new wood you install. As for treating the whole house; this is an option but generally not required based on the low risk and the massive costs. Tenting a house can cost $10,000 and up and is usually only done when there is an extensive infestation.
So at this point I suggest you prepare the stair case and railing so you can treat it with some Boracare. This would be a one time deal meaning one treatment will both break the cycle of any beetles living in the wood now as well as protect the wood from future damage.
Alternatively you can remove the infested wood, get new stock to install and start over. But I would strongly advise you to pretreat the new wood with Boracare to insure the same thing doesn't happen. Since these beetles can easily hide deep inside any wood you install, it's not possible to tell ahead of time whether the stair case or railing has an active infestation. And since dealing with the problem is so costly and time consuming after the wood is finished and installed, pre treating it before you finish it would be wise since it's so easy and cost effective.
Here are direct links to the information and products listed above:
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Exit Holes explained: http://www.powderpostbeetles.com/powderpost-beetle-control#post_treatment
Lisa @ 9:49 am
We have recently discovered powder post beetles coming out of our front door. The builder has ordered a new door, but in the meantime I have now found 2 or 3 holes on our hardwood floors! How can I tell if they are coming out of the floor or boring into it? And what should we do to take care of the situation and to prevent it from getting any worse?
admin @ 10:03 am
If you read through our article above, you'll learn that what you're seeing are in fact exit holes. Adult beetles won't drill new holes but they will lay eggs and this is where the risk of infestation and continuing the current population exists.
To prevent this from happening, any wood used in construction should be pre treated. For the most part builders won't do this by default but if you insist on having any new wood treated prior to having it placed in the home, they'll usually oblige. Especially after a direct encounter such are you are now experiencing.
As for the hardwood flooring; no doubt you have active pupae hatching and if left untreated, it too cold continue to prosper. I suggest you read our article – especially the parts on hard wood flooring and exit holes – so you better understand what you're seeing, what it means and what logical approaches should be followed now that an active problem has been identified.
Hardwood Floor Treatments: http://www.powderpostbeetles.com/powderpost-beetle-control#wood_floor_beetle_treatment
Exit Hole Treatments: http://www.powderpostbeetles.com/powderpost-beetle-control#post_treatment
Jan @ 8:48 pm
We have recently found several exit holes on the walls in the entry way of our home. What is the best product to treat and the best way to seal the holes?
admin @ 8:40 am
If you read through the article above, you'll see the Boracare is definitely the "best" product to use for an active infestation. You'll also learn that when you're seeing exit holes, it means you have an active, current infestation. So for now, I'd focus on either replacing or treating the wood which has the activity. I mention "replace" because if the wood in discussion is some door molding or other "small" piece of wood trim, replacing might be more practical instead of stripping it down and prepping it for Boracare. But if you do replace the infested wood, be sure to pre treat it with the Boracare to avoid having this happen again.
Now if the wood in question has already been treated, then you can proceed as we describe above under the section above that deals with exit holes and once they're sprayed with the Phantom, you can seal them up with any standard wood filler.
Exit Hole Treatment: http://www.powderpostbeetles.com/powderpost-beetle-control#post_treatment
Phantom: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/aerosol/pt-phantom-17-5oz
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Tammie @ 6:31 pm
We've recently noticed powder post beetles coming out of the interior wall of our home which is 20 yrs old. Is it possible to get the beetles at anytime?
admin @ 8:11 am
Yes. Remember, powderpost beetles are abundant throughout most of the world. In the wild they seek out a good place on which to nest and lay eggs and with most any home using wood in some part of it's construction, it's quite common for powderpost beetles to migrate onto and then into any standing structure. And though most of these infestations may go un noticed because many times they don't thrive too well, once holes start appearing inside the structure, it becomes painfully obvious to the homeowner something isn't right.
For now you should be thankful you're seeing the holes. I've been involved with structures that did not provide such an early warning and only after several years of damaging chewing and damage did the owner finally realize what was happening. For now, I suggest you do a thorough inspection of the home to see what's happening both inside and outside. If the home has wood siding, it could very well be infested so look over anything made of wood like siding, window frames, soffits, roof decking, facia boards, door frames, decks, etc.
Inside the home, you'll need to determine if the nesting is being done to the walls exterior or to something inside the void. Common wood paneling will serve as a great nest site for powderpost beetles as will the studs and structural members inside the wall void. Once you narrow down what they're nesting in, you can decide if you'll treat the existing wood or do some replacing. But even if you replace any of the infected lumber, it's strongly advisable that the new stock get treated with some Boracare to prevent future infestations. Since you've already had some activity, new wood brought to the area is much more likely to fall victim to the same problem if left untreated.
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Paul Wellman @ 7:13 pm
I just noticed what looked like saw dust on my ash staircase. The staircase was installed in a new house that we built about a year ago. After examination I've determined that there are small round holes in 3 of the posts supporting the handrail. My son said he noticed the sawdust a few weeks ago so I have no idea where the little critters may have gone to lay eggs. We have hardwood floors and there are lots of areas of exposed wood – subfloors, studs etc as the house isn't complete yet. Any recommendations? Thank you.
admin @ 10:29 pm
If the home is new and you're just now seeing exit holes, I'd say to treat them like we describe here:
Exit Hole Treatment: http://www.powderpostbeetles.com/powderpost-beetle-control#post_treatment
This link shows how to treat exit holes after a treatment was done and I know, you haven't had a treatment done yet, but for now I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that you'll need one done. You see, there is a good chance that if you handle the exit holes as explained above, the emerging adults will die and eventually "run out" with no further treatments needed. But for now it's too early to tell so start with the process listed above and give it another month or two. The Phantom is easy to use and might be all you'll need.
Phantom: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/aerosol/pt-phantom-17-5oz
And if the exit holes stop appearing, it might be a sign the problem is over. But if they increase and you start finding new ones every day, it would mean there is a most likely going to be further treatments required. Contact us again if you're still seeing them in two months or if the problem gets noticeably worse for more advice.
Laura Jinkins @ 2:32 pm
I have been reorganizing my study and upon removing some books from an old antique bookcase, I discovered some fine powder coming from the holes that the adjustable bookshelf brackets fit into. I'm in a panic, because this bookcase is 6 feet wide and 7 feet tall and very heavy. When we got it, my husband said if we ever moved, the new owners would get the bookcase so removing it for fumigation is not an option. I'm thinking it's powder post beetles. We got this bookcase from a friend of my mom-in-law's and it was stored in a barn for a number of years. Rumor has it came from a shop on the Strand in Galveston. Not a valuable antique, my husband sanded it down and I painted it with Dutch Boy paint except I didn't paint inside those little holes. Anyway, I've been using it to store my scrapbooks and supplies and now I'm worried about infestation, risk to my scrapbooks, etc. What can I do? Will shooting the Jecta Gel into the little holes where the bookshelf brackets go take care of it?
admin @ 4:05 pm
Injecting some Jecta Gel into the holes will help. But unless you have a lot of holes, you won't get enough of a uniform treatment to treat the whole piece properly. What you really need to do is either remove the paint and treat with Boracare or drill out more holes making a pattern that will insure the treatment is through and through.
To calculate just how many holes you'll need, give us a call and we can help. Ask for Chad if you call as he'll experienced in this area. You can also forward some pics and dimensions and using them, we should be able to recommend the hole pattern you'll need.
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Jecta Gel: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/gel/jecta-gel-10-oz
Marty @ 9:20 pm
We are considering the purchase of a home on the east coast beach and the pest inspection indicated PPB. The interior walls are single 3/4" pine planks with no studs and most outside walls do not have interior finish (studs are visible). The newer part of the house has wood plank inside finished walls with studs.
The only places holes are now seen are in the old (1922 built) parts of the house. The wood has had no finish (paint/ sealer) applied.
Some have said Timbor or Boracare would work and others insist Fumigation is required. One concern is the residue left on the Pine walls if Timbor is used.
We are concerned with the ability of sprays to treat inaccessible places such as attic framing (insulation in place between joists) or floor joists (plywood nailed to bottom if joists) or the spaces in the 'new' stud walls with wood plank inside finishes and Cedar shake outside finish.
Most wood inside the house is old pine.
If sprays are used should the outside cedar be included?
Would sprays be a longer term solution at the expense of total coverage?
Would fumigation be a more thorough coverage but not lasting?
Should the 'new' areas of wood be treated for prevention?
You advice to clarify our best option(s) would be appreciated!!
admin @ 10:15 pm
In fact you've identified the pros and cons of liquid treatments vs fumigation. And once these comparisons are made, it should be obvious that doing both a fumigation followed by a thorough Boracare application is the way to go if you want the "best" treatment option solution. Think about it; the fumigation would kill everything there and once the Boracare was applied, you'll have long lasting residual to prevent future re infestation. So if you want the best, do both.
But before you do, you may want to consider that most any house built before 1950 is likely to show signs of powderpost beetles or some other wood destroying insect (if it was made mostly with wood). The real question now is whether the signs discovered are "live" or just old exit holes.
Well, since it's not really possible to tell the difference, the common policy of any inspecting company and any mortgage writing financial institution is to have the home treated. This will help safe guard their investment. But is it really necessary? Maybe, maybe not. I suggest you dig a little deeper to see what the inspecting company really means when they "indicated PPB". They might very well tell you they suspect the signs to be "old" and if they don't, I suggest you get at least 3 companies to inspect and then compare notes once all the inspections are complete.
In the end, if you want the best protection for the home, doing both a fumigation and Boracare application would be ideal for many reasons. The only thing I wouldn't do is treat with Timbor since it doesn't penetrate enough to do anything positive for an active population and it leaves a white residue. These are what I would call big weaknesses and because of them, I'd skip this option and go with the other two.
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Marty @ 12:59 pm
What is the best way to determine if they (PPB) are 'active' within the next month if possible?
admin @ 1:04 pm
Monitor the area looking for new "frass" would be the most productive. As explained in our article above, exiting PPB will create a fine, talc like powder that is a sure sign of them leaving wood that's infested.
Additionally, adults may be found. Though small, they tend to be drawn to lights and windows. If you're finding live or dead PPB in the structure and after removing the ones you find only to find more in few days, that would be a sure sign of live activity too.
Cathryn @ 6:08 pm
A chair caning customer of mine just brought an antique Old Hickory rustic style rocker to me to have the seat rewoven. After an inspection, I discovered that the entire rocker was covered with the exit holes from the Powder Post Beetle. It is part of a four piece set and she said after checking them all over, that they have the holes too.
I am recommending she remove the finish, which looks to be just varnish, and treat with Boracare as per your instructions before I do any restoration work on the seat.
However, my question to you is, how long a time does it take for MY furniture and perhaps lumber in the studio to get infested from her piece? Is my place in danger of infestation if it stays here for a few days before she picks it back up? I have taken the precaution of putting the rocker in a metal shed, just in case.
Thanks very much for your thorough discussion and solutions to the problem of wood boring bugs!
admin @ 6:25 pm
Though possible, it's not likely anything significant will migrate in just a few days. And if it did, the odds on it being successful are slight at best. So in summary, you'd have to be extremely unlucky for anything to transfer to your lumber.
That being said, I believe keeping the pieces well removed would be smart. And if they cannot be located elsewhere, covering them in a plastic bag would help subdue any beetles that tried to migrate.
So for now, keeping the pieces in a steel shed should do the trick till they get treated. And with that action complete, I'd say you're lumber will be fine and at no risk of contracting any beetles.
E. LaFramboise @ 7:58 am
Help please —After finding small holes on a chair leg (along with piles of sawdust…) we removed the chairs from our home. Initially we thought we had termites but after talking with an Orkin Pest control specialist he indicated that it was powder post beetles. He also said removing the infected chairs from our home should be the end of our problem.
Should we worry that these powder post beetles remain somewhere else in our home/furniture?? We have not seen anymore piles of sawdust and live in southeast Michigan.
admin @ 8:34 am
If you read our article above, you'll learn that it takes awhile for this type of problem to spread. So if the chairs were only in the home for a short amount of time, it's not likely any were able to find a suitable wood to infest and successful initiate a new population.
So at this time, I would have to agree with the course of action and that it's not likely you'll see anything new develop. But that's not to say you shouldn't pay attention. Keep a watchful eye and if you find any new piles of sawdust, inspect it closer and take corrective measures at that time. Keep us posted if anything should develop and we'll further advise.
E. LaFramboise @ 10:40 pm
Thank you so much for your comments — one thing though, we have had these chairs in our home since October 2011 (yikes!) however I only began to notice the "piles of sawdust" (kind of looks like yellow cornmeal) in the last month or so. In the meanwhile I will be sure to keep a look out for additional sawdust piles and again thank you for the information!
admin @ 5:19 am
This is actually quite normal. As our article explains, the adults will only emerge when ready and though the chairs had them inside when you first brought them in, the powderpost beetles inside were developing and not ready to come out. And when they did finally get "ready", their exit dust was easy to spot as well as their exit holes. Since the item involved was something out in the open, you were lucky. Had it been an item off in a corner somewhere, the emerging adults could have been missed for several months or even longer which would be more risky for sure. But since you acted within a few months, you should be fine. Cheers!
Kimberly @ 10:43 am
We have a fireplace and next to it is stored several pieces of wood in a carrier. I could hear something that sounded like chewing coming from the wood carrier and upon inspection immediately notice small(ish) holes in the logs and a fine dust. I immediately placed the logs outside and I am now concerned that the holes were created by the exiting adult beetles.
Our 6-year old home is cedar shingled with hard wood floors. Should I apply some kind of preventative treatment or wait for some kind of sign that the beetles are in the house? And I'm living in a climate where the winter temperatures fall to zero or below; does that make a difference? Thank you!
admin @ 2:40 pm
No doubt the logs you had inside were hosting some type of wood destroying pest. And it is possible some moved from the logs to the living space. To insure none survive, I recommend a thorough vacuuming of at least the entire floor where the logs were stored. Following this I suggest you lightly mist the windows and flooring with ECO Exempt aerosol. This is a "mild" product that uses nothing but essential plant oils for it's active and can be safely used inside for areas like window sills and hard wood flooring.
ECO KO: http://www.bugspraycart.com/exempt/aerosol/eco-exempt-org-ko-aero-14-oz
Next, I recommend you get those logs as far from your home as possible. Remember, it's summer which means all summer long these logs will be releasing damaging insects and the last thing you need is for some of these to fly to your home and start living in the home's siding. In fact this is one of the most common ways people get this pest in the first place: by storing infested wood too close! No doubt the local area has enough of these pests already and there is no need to bring more around by storing these logs.
Lastly, these beetles can survive any kind of cold and though they go dormant during this time, like many insects they'll be back as soon as it warms. Good luck!
Debbie Jacobs @ 8:23 am
Hi,
Thank you for such an informative and educational website on PPB. Just what I was looking for.
I have just recently acquired a lot of old rough cut oak planks that I intended to use for paneling in my newly built pole barn. They were stored in an old barn loft that was built in the late 1800s. I do not know how old the planks are but have been in that loft for many many years. I do not see any evidence of PPB but am really concerned about them. I did acquire an old ladder that is riddled with them and am worrying about even keeping it. However, as old as this ladder is it may very well be an old infestation. I had planned on using it for decorating an area either inside or maybe outside under the front porch of my new building.
I had read on one of the university sites that it is rare that the Lyctid beetle that prefers hardwood rarely attacks wood that is more than 5 years old. Since this wood has been stored in a loft for so many years I am wondering about the moisture content and wether it is at risk. What are your opinions on something that has been stored for so many years but show no evidence of PPB?
My initial thought was to treat it but I am really allergic to certain things and fear if I treat with a chemical and install in my new building I won't be able to spend any time in there. This would not be an option as it is my hobby barn and will be used extensively when I retire in a few years. Would treating in a kiln at a high temperature be a better option for me?
Does the fact that there may not be much moisture in the wood, since it has been stored so long, play any part in what I need to do to insure I don't have problems with installing this wood in my building?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
admin @ 9:05 am
We have not seen any relationship regarding the amount of moisture wood holds and whether or not it will get powderpost beetles. But then again, we have not done any research because it's not our business to do this type of work. Our business is to help people who have infestations. And since we typically get contacted by people who have an active problem, it's safe to say 98% or more of the wood we see is infested. And with that being said, what we know is that the wood we do see can be have either near zero moisture or it can be soaking wet. So if you look at it from our perspective, it's painfully clear powderpost beetles can and will infest wood with all ranges of moisture.
A better way to understand what I've explained is to think about the odds of being struck by lightening. Clearly standing out in a wide open area on top of a mountaintop during a lightening storm is a lot more risky compared to being down inside a cave "supposedly" out of any normal lightening range. But in fact many people get struck by lightening while in a cave so in the end, it can be equally as devastating. So too is the powderpost beetle.
Which leads me to the obvious conclusion regarding "my thoughts" on whether to treat or not. Basically what I feel is that if you have wood that's infested or something you want to make sure won't get infested, treat it. With that being said, it's still a personal choice. And that choice should be made based on what makes you comfortable. To me, being able to stand on a mountaintop or down in a cave and not have to worry about being struck by lightening is a good, secure feeling. But some people like risk and even thrive on it. So if you're a dice roller, not treating would be a viable option. But if you want to insure no risk of infestation, a simple treatment with Boracare would remove any risk and based on what you intend on using this wood for, a treatment that would last many, many years.
One other comment; Boracare uses boron as it's active. Commonly known as boric acid, allergic reactions to this element are quite rare. Additionally, once applied and allowed to cure, this active will be deep inside the treated wood leaving little if any potential for inhalation or dermal exposures. This makes the treatment one that's very different compared to other types of pest control where the product is out in the open and more likely to impact the surrounding environment. So in the end, even if you did treat, the "risk" of any exposure from this type of application would be non existent and should not be a factor in making your decision.
Sherry Byrne @ 9:53 am
We have made an offer on a foreclosed cabin built in 1979. It has been vacant for some time and has been completely gutted so that there are now only exterior walls, stud and rafters. There is insulation on the exterior walls. The house has wood "dove-tailed " siding. We just had a pest inspection and the report stated we had powder post beetles and wood boring beetles throughout. The company stated that the only viable treatment was tenting/fumigating at $7,500.00, but the inspector did say that the house was "structurally solid". We had a general contractor assess the house and he told us the house structure was good as well. I have researched this topic and it "seems" we could successfully treat the inside and outside of the cabin ourselves. From what I've read, the best plan of action is to treat now by spraying and fogging the crawlspace and then treat again in the Spring. Would it be a good idea to fog the inside ourselves as well? There is just no way that we can afford the 7500 tenting in addition to the upfront price of the cabin. As this is a foreclosure, the bank will not re-negotiate the price. We need to make a super-quick decision on whether or not to complete this purchase. Can you please give me your thoughts?
admin @ 10:20 am
Based on the information you've provided, I'd say the conditions are right for this to be tackled via a do it yourself treatment. The one thing you didn't mention is whether or not you are seeing live or dead beetles. To me, if I was finding lots of dead beetles, it would make me treat extra careful so to not miss anything. And it would mean there is no doubt current activity so I would be careful not to miss any section if possible.
Now if haven't found any beetles, it could very well be old activity they've discovered and to cover themselves like most any company would want to do, they're recommending the treatment. Either way you should treat but clearly if you're finding new exit holes and/or dead beetles around the structure, you need to spray big time and it needs to be thorough.
As for the treatment; I see no reason a good coating of Boracare done now couldn't solve the problem completely meaning why treat now and then again in the spring? I don't think this would be needed if you do it right the first time since any good Boracare treatment applied inside the home will last many years.
However, I do believe that "painting" or spraying the wood should give you better coverage compared to fogging. The only time you would want to fog over spraying would be if you had limited access to a tight area like a crawl space or attic. Give us a call when you're ready to proceed so we can give you a precise estimate of what you'll need Boracare wise. Our toll free is 1-800-877-7290.
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Carolyn Peterson @ 3:20 am
I bought a home about 9 years ago which had active termite damage that the previous owners did not disclose (yes, they were aware of them). The damage was on the outside wall from the family room, Master closet, and Master bathroom: more than 2/3 of that side of the house. I had the home treated and then I remodeled taking out all the damaged wood. That was 3 years ago.
While doing the remodel, I had some cabinet work done in my master bath. This week I noticed that the wood trim along two inside walls inside my master bath was very soft and when pushed on, crumbled into pieces.
I did more digging and all the wood under the cabinets is damaged and had been eaten. The support boards were eaten anywhere from 1/3 to all of them. There was activity and I am still trying to determine if they are powderpost beetles, or termites…
I can't figure out how they got under the cabinets and on an inside wall. Since moving into this house I have had to hang damprid in my bathrooms and change them anywhere from 30 days to 45 days (average is 90 days). There is so much moisture and when I started cleaning up the mess under the cabinets, it was damp and very musty with a damp musty odor.
Any suggestions??? The bugs are still alive and they are tiny tiny black bugs. I would peel the wood apart and there they would be. And yes, tiny holes everywhere. I am worried that they might be in other areas of my home. Help!
admin @ 7:20 am
First, you need to know just what this pest is. Now since you have live specimens, any local pest control company should be able to tell you what they are if you bring them a sample. And they should do this for free.
At that time they may offer to inspect the home and quote you for any work that might be needed. I suggest you consider letting them do this. I also suggest you contact at least 2 other companies and get some quotes from them too (basically get at least 3 quotes before hiring anyone). During these inspections, you should ask what each company would like to treat, what's the main target pest and what products would they use.
After getting 3 quotes, you should have a good idea as to what extent the problem has grown, what the pests are (termites, powderpost beetles, both, something else) and what methods of treatments are being suggested. You should also be able to learn of what products would be used. Once all this information is gathered, you should then be able to determine whether you want to hire a service company to do the work or get the products they were gong to use and do the work yourself (which is where we can help).
Now if you decide to tackle this project yourself, no doubt we can help. That being said, since we're not able to physically inspect your home, it's not possible for us to know the extent of the activity or infestation and this is important. So to get a better handle of just how minor or major the problem is, getting a professional to inspect the home is definitely the way to go. Remember, you're under no obligation to hire them if they inspect your home; pretty much all companies will do free inspections and for your situation, this would be a good way to start the process. Now if you don't know of any good companies by you, we do have a data base of companies we trust that you can search by zip code. For more information on how to find some, follow this link:
Referral: http://www.bugspray.com/about-us/who_is_bugspray.html#pest_control_service_company_referral
That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if you have a current powderpost beetle infestation coupled with some old termite damage that's now making itself known. Additionally, I wouldn't stress about how bad it is. I've seen many times that when they target wood like the trim where you've found them that this turns out to be the main problem. I do see where you say "the support boards were eaten" which is confusing because I'm not sure if you mean support boards of the cabinet or support beams of the home. Now if you mean the cabinet and this is the cabinet that was built after you remodeled, I would then have to ask if this piece maybe had a problem when it was first installed? Could a cabinet last 10-20 years after being installed with active powderpost beetles? Most definitely. Powderpost beetles can take a long time to make themselves known so this scenario could be playing out right now and in fact, this problem could be completely independent of the original problem the home had when you first moved in.
Lastly, as for how they "got under the cabinets and on an inside wall"; that's easy. Remember, both powderpost beetles and termites eat wood. So as they forage through one piece and hit an end, they can easily chew through that piece and move onto the next adjoining neighbor piece. And this can go on and on in most any structure enabling them to forage non stop through most any home, unimpeded, basically moving from one section of wood to another.
Something else; since you mention a moisture problem that seems to be bad in the bathroom, I have to wonder if you don't maybe have a moisture issue under the home? Do you have a crawl space under the house that might be taking on water which needs to be fixed? There are many ways to reduce if not eliminate this problem if in fact it's happening and you should definitely be looking for any such are under the house as this would be important. In the end, fixing this type of problem would go a long way at resolving the high humidity which no doubt would help promote many types of wood destroying pests.
Now the good news is that if you have a crawl space and/or basement under the home, it would mean you would also have access to the key parts of the house that would need to be treated. This means that treating with something like Boracare would be a viable solution to the problem. And since Boracare will stop termites, powderpost beetles, decay fungi and any other wood destroying organism, your problem can be fixed. But the key here is to first find out the extent of the problem so that you'll know just how much to treat and along the way, identify if there is any damage to the main support beams of the home that in turn would have to be fixed. So once you find this all out, give us a call toll free at 1-800-877-7290 if you have further questions and I'm sure we'll be able to assist.
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Lloyd Snider @ 2:31 pm
We have oak base trim boards 3/4" x 6" in our office. They were installed about a year or two ago and have been painted black on the facing and on the top. We have the powder post holes happening in two of the rooms. Should we expect the installer to replace all the boards? Can this be treated without tearing out hundreds of linear feet of boards? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Lloyd
admin @ 6:16 pm
Replacing the boards is certainly an option. But don't make the same mistake with the new wood that gets installed. Be sure to have it all treated with Boracare (not Timbor) prior to installation. This way whether it has beetles or not, you'll be covered.
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Alternatively, you could opt to remove all the boards currently installed and once removed, treat them on their unfinished side with Boracare. Once they cure (which will only take 2-3 days), the wood could be reinstalled and from that point on, be beetle free.
Yes, you might still have a few more exit holes from pupae still left but no new eggs could live in the treated wood. That means eventually the problem would effectively "run out" and the wood will be pest free.
Jordan @ 7:47 pm
I have a bunch of old sycamore floor joists that I'm planning to repurpose. They are sitting in my garage right now until it gets warmer outside and I can do something with them.
I took a small piece of one into work with me and cut some samples and put a finish on them to see what I was dealing with. A couple days later I noticed some holes in the wood. I cut them apart and found little tunnels inside. I believe it to be from powderpost beetles.
I plan on using the wood to build a kitchen and dining room table. How can I treat the wood? I've heard that I can heat treat it to around 130 degrees and that will kill them off. Is that true? And how could I go about doing so? Any other suggestions?
admin @ 10:54 pm
No doubt heat treating can kill most insects. But remember, most all wood is kiln dried prior to being sold and used for construction. Additionally, wood used for flooring is routinely heated as a way to kill off insects. Yet even after these treatments, so much wood sold on the open market still has insect activity.
With this happening it's become well known and obvious that heat alone is no sure way to control a current and active powder post beetle problem. In fact, heating (kiln drying) is really just a protective measure done for the sake of doing something. In other words, it's what we consider to be "window dressing". So if you want to get rid of a live and documented problem, you need to embed the wood with a material that will both kill what's feeding and stick around for several years so the problem cannot come back. And to achieve this goal, the best way to treat is with Boracare.
If you read the article above, you'll learn that Boracare is unique in how it works. Basically it will penetrate wood and once allowed to cure through and through, it will kill off feeding larvae that attempt to eat the treated cellulose.
Treatments can last several years when done outside and inside, pretty much indefinitely. So if you want to get rid of the insects currently feeding on your sycamore and make it so they can't come back, treat with Boracare and be done with it.
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Jordan R @ 9:12 am
Maybe I should be a little more clear. The wood was used as floor joists in a house that is now under renovations. This wood has been in the house since 1890. I plan to build a kiln to heat treat it.
If I do decide to use boracare, how long does it take to dry? It's completely unfinished wood that's about 2.5 in thick. It will be getting repurposed into a dining room table and stuff like that so I want it to be safe as well. Can I apply the boracare and then kiln dry it? I'd like the best possible solution as I don't want problem with my clients in the future.
admin @ 1:27 pm
As explained above, kiln drying should not be considered doing pest control. In fact, kiln drying was first started for the sole purpose of hastening the dry time fresh cut wood needed. Lumber brought to mills could be processed that much faster if they were kiln dried.
Along the way, it was learned that insects could be killed when exposing the wood to high temperatures so it only made sense that this benefit should be marketed. In other words, wood that's processed for construction is considered to be "clean" if it's kiln dried. But this should not thought of as some kind of "pest control treatment" – especially when the wood involved is known to harbor some kind of pest.
So if you have raw wood that's freshly cut with no signs of insect activity and you kiln dry it, I would say it's safe to use and sell this wood as being "insect free".
But if you possess wood with a current insect problem, using it for building furniture or home construction would be risky unless you treat it with Boracare. This way the wood will be fully protected (since Boracare provides long lasting residual) and any insect eggs, pupae, etc. missed by the kiln drying process will still be killed.
More importantly, if any new powder post beetles find this wood after it's bought and used in a customers home, these new beetles won't be able to nest in Boracare treated cellulose.
But if the wood was only kiln dried, it will be vulnerable and very much prime real estate for foraging beetles. And if this happens, who do you think will be blamed? From what we find, homeowners will blame their carpenter/lumber yard/contractor 100% of the time for any such problem.
And when they contact us to ask what we think, we explain there is really no way to tell where the problem came from but if they bought wood that was previously infested, there is always a risk the problem could have carried over unless it was treated with something like Boracare (not Timbor).
In the end, there is no practical way to tell for sure if the beetles are completely gone from the wood unless you were to cut it all apart at the time of the sale. But for obvious reasons, this is not an option. But what is an option is have it treated through and through with something that won't allow feeding larvae to eat and at this time, Boracare is the best product available for achieving this goal.
So if you plan on using this wood for furniture that will be sold commercially, treating it with Boracare is really the only way you can be sure the current infestation will be controlled and that future infestations won't happen.
As for dry time; Boracare takes just 72 hours to cure. I've seen it go faster – especially if the wood is dry and porous – but waiting 4-5 days is always suggested. Mind you it goes on clear and odorless and once cured, there is no sign anything was ever done so the wood can be used however you want.
And since treatments can last indefinitely when the treatment is done to wood that will be installed inside a structure, this is by far the single best treatment option when an active infestation of any type of wood boring pest is known to exist.
Lastly, kiln dry the wood first and then treat with Boracare. I'm afraid the heat of the treatment would affect the Boracare in some kind of negative way so to avoid any type of ingredient degradation, treat with Boracare it after the wood has been kiln dried.
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
Claire Sutherland @ 11:19 am
Very informative, thank you. However, the infestation I have appears to be in my barn. I have an old bank barn and a few of my barn beams are showing exit holes. As well, one of the beams is exposed on one side, looking quite sawdusty in the middle.
How safe are these products to use around my horses? If one were to lick the surface of the beam, once product was dried……how harmful would it be?
Thanks.
admin @ 11:36 am
The use of Boracare applies to any wood including that which would be found in attic spaces, crawl spaces, barns, awnings, carports, garages, sheds, decks, outside staircases, docks, etc. So your barn is well within the normal range of structures for which Boracare can be used successfully.
Boracare: http://www.bugspraycart.com/insecticide/liquid/boracare-gal
As for safety; Boracare uses a boron based active which has very little impact on mammals – even if we ingest it. That being said, the whole concept of Boracare is that it possesses a unique formulation which enables the active to absorb through and through the treated wood. The net result is that most (if not all) of the active ends up "inside" the cellulose and very little (if any) is left on the woods surface.
This means the risk of an exposure (even if an animal was to lick the wood) is pretty much nil. Combine this with the fact that mammals can ingest some and not be affected means its a very safe option for this use and would not be a danger to any animal kept in the barn.